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Hmmmm seems like some pro labor mod is doing some apologia for crimes that people hung at Nuremberg for.
Forgive me for dispensing with civility while hellfire rains down.
I would prefer this post be restored or the rules be updated for clarity
Not a mod but a happy AZ user here. If something characterises our mods is their good faith and you are accusing them of “apologia for crimes that people hung at Nuremberg for”. Maybe chill a bit.
Try sending the same link without all the creativity and you might see that it stays up because nobody is plotting to hide a news piece from The Fucking Guardian.
I don’t know the other users, but I like AZ because most people can keep a cold head without the need to be micromanaged by a thousand rules. Don’t be the reason we need a full blown ToS page, please.
If submitting news articles with titles that aren’t copies of the source is against the rules then that should be written down and communicated.
I’m not the only person to do this, but my post is removed. why?
Again, not a mod, so I’m not in their heads and I can only guess. Editing a headline to clarify (missing country, typos, whatever) is different, in my opinion, to unnecessarily change it to add our personal spin (telling the reader how to feel about it, for example). That might be it. Might be not, I don’t know.
If I’m not mistaken, the original headline was “Albanese calls for ‘peaceful, democratic transition’ of power in Venezuela after US capture of Nicolás Maduro”. I think that the problem with “Our lords and masters line up behind the USA against a rules based order and the precedents established at Nuremburg” is not that it’s not an exact copy of the source.
Why is it ok for mods to remove posts without reference to rules?
What is the point of rules if they don’t bind mods?
Now I’m curious and I cannot see it in the modlog.
Did you send the link to [email protected] ? Because there’s a rule in there that says:
When posting news articles use the source headline and place your commentary in a separate comment
Edit. Ah, no, it was [email protected] … Maybe they just forgot to put that rule in there too?
Did you try and reach them?
yes I did, no response
Yes… no response in the sub 1 hour timeframe since you messaged me.
I consider editorialised headlines to break global rule 0 of AZ, especially when being deliberately antagonistic in attempting to provoke a fight from those with differing opinions to you. ie don’t be a dick. If you want to pick a fight, do it elsewhere.
In this case, I agree with the broad strokes of your opinion on the topic of the article you linked. Repost it with the original published title and it will stay. Add your own commentary to the post, not the headline.
can you amend the rules to clarify this stance please?
Did you message them at 4am on a Monday morning AEST? Because it looks like you did.
Oh i’ve definitely seen stuff warned / removed over edited headlines before. Even seen posts restored after mistaken shots (hosting site had chnaged title but left original URL)
Dunno about the mods, but the AZ admins are 100% happy to continue to platform racists (ikt).
When alerted and given information, they’ll maybe remove one or two offending posts but do absolutely nothing about the user despite a repeated history of it.
As far as I’m concerned the instance is run in very very bad faith.
Edit: Lodion I see you’ve downvoted this, do you perhaps want to comment on why you refuse to take meaningful action against racism towards Aboriginal peoples and allow said racist to continue to operate on your platform?
Dunno about the mods, but the AZ admins are 100% happy to continue to platform racists>
Untrue. Starting with a statement of “fact” like that immediately has me questioning if you are posting in good faith.
When alerted and given information, they’ll maybe remove one or two offending posts but do absolutely nothing about the user despite a repeated history of it.>
The information you’ve previously compiled was either moderated already, or deleted by author when I saw most of if. What remained were ambiguous, possibly offensive comments if interpreted in particular ways . Either way… I didn’t see anything warranting further action than had already occurred. That and your actions at the time, harassing said user in every thread they posted in, had me take your input with a large grain of salt.
As far as I’m concerned the instance is run in very very bad faith.>
I don’t think there is anything I can say to convince you how wrong you are on this one. We do the best with the information available to us, and we’re only human.
As for your edit:
why you refuse to take meaningful action>
I’m not. I’m happy to ban users when it is warranted.
why you refuse to take meaningful action against racism towards Aboriginal peoples>
Can you point me towards any such content on AZ?
allow said racist to continue to operate on your platform?>
I’ve not seen any unaddressed reports for them that warrant action on my part. I’m not online 24x7 though, so often reports are addressed by other mods/admins before I see what was reported.
Looking over comments from this user, I see plenty to dislike. But I won’t ban a user because I dislike them, their opinions or necessarily how they express them.
YDI.
You deliberately set out to start a fight, and when that didn’t work you’re trying to start one here. Any mod worth their salt can smell that behaviour a mile away.
If you want somewhere else to discuss Australian Politics without the racism/Zionism tolerance of Aussie.Zone.
Removed by mod
No sexist insults here. Change that.
Not a bitch. Just being a dick. In contravention of the rules.
They failed the golden rule, it was right there the whole time.
