you would be wrong, cerro dominador on chile started operations recently.

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I wonder what kind of surprises do they have prepared for the parade.

good pun

my country extracts copper nor uranium, I just used it as an example.

but the story is the same, the thing people in third world country needs the least is for countries to stop buying their exports, and also that mining can be done way more modernly.

chile lol, it was a crazy experience it lasted long enough for the cell network to fail, I was fortunately in home but it was chaotic for people going home at the time, the goverment ordered a curfew to be had at night so people also were in a hurry, and it was quite a thing lol, I only had the radio left to inform myself on what was happening and it was crazy stuff hearing how they talked about the efforts to cold start the grid back again, they had to do like 3 attempts before success, “the Rapel dam is on maximum power, trying to provide energy to x power plan who then may be able to provide energy to…”

About the point 2.

I live in a thinrd world country, and it angers me to no end when they try to take this moral stand when a lot of times they’re the ones who didn’t let us all develop in the first place lol.

My country depends on it’s mining industry, the biggest copper mining country in the world and i think the 2nd on lithium, they say it’s the wage of chile, most of the copper is extracted by the State owned CODELCO, wich money goes to schools and hospitals, and even the one who is mined privately is taxed and has to pay royalties that go to help the people.

Miners aren’t even poorly paid for Chilean standards, and they have benefits, they’re strongly unionized lol, and mines here have an extremely high tech level, making people don’t have to go to risky places, a lot of mines are totally automated, where robots extract the material and take it out, while their operators sit comfortably in a control room in the city.

So don’t come to lecture me on these “poor people in third world countries” because you know nothing, you are a firstworlder who had benefited from colonization and political meddling in our affairs, now that we’re finally advancing, and making a better country for ourselves, you come to say this thing? Bruh.

I fully agree that solar will be the majority of electricity produced in the near future, but photovoltaic has the disadvantage of following the sun, and honestly, chermical batteries aren’t really the solution (and I’m saying this when my country is one of the biggest lithium producers in the world) Gravity batteries are, but surprise surprise, they are water turbines and water pumps lol, they will last way longer than a chermical battery anyways.

Thermosolar has the molten salt as a buffer between the sun and the electricity, you can use it to produce energy steadily, even in the night, wich solves the problem of having to build gravity damns and the associated risk of them.

I’m confident studying mech, because it isn’t going away anytime soon.

and yeah, I full agree that we need to reform the power grid and enact at least partial statization.

but still, nuclear is a good tech that can produce clean energy right where is needed, we shouldn’t discard it just because renewables are quite O.P.

because ppl act over irrational fear and lobby their politicians to close perfectly safe sites.

I could look up photos of people hurt at a wind farm or something, but we would both agree of the utter ridiculousness of it, of it being a rare and freak ocurrance, numbers don’t lie as nuclear having a low death per kW ratio.

Solar still uses boiling water, thermosolar at least, that has a lot of benefits over the photovoltaic cell, as it can generate energy steadily and even trough the night, here in chile they built cerro dominador, quite impressive thing.

it depends on the geography of the place, in my country it would be reasonably a huge challenge to build farms over the sea because of the geography of here (it’s like a underwater cliff)

and still, I’m heavily pro renewables, but that doesn’t I won’t be pro nuclear also, both are crucial tech to de-carbonize the world.

fusion 100% is the future whenever it’s figured out.

But I’m not as scared as mining, my country has a lot of mining operations, mostly copper, but the modern tech they have is quite incredible, they use robots to mine, wich are safely controlled in an office building in the city.

it literally isn’t, why people are saying this? the fossil part comes from being, well fossilized organic material, hence hidrocarbon rich, nuclear isn’t tthat, it’s not renewable but is clean energy.

so a train will be less terrible than to be stored in seismically inactive rock?

it isn’t, transmission is a complex thing to do lol, my country had a full blackout last year because a cascading failure caused by a transmission line.

Nuclear fuel will last long enough for us to both have nuclear fission and the capacity to space mine materials.

solar doesn’t work in places that don’t have land available to be turned into solar farms, here in chile they do a lot of solar, and cool melted salt solar too, but is far north in the Atacama and they have to bring it in, wich is a huge bottle neck, A nuclear power plant in Santiago would relieve a lot the strain in the grid.

It’s talking about ignorance honestly, hidro has killed way more people.

honestly, IDK how much of a strawman it is, Germany literally replaced nuclear with coal.

it isn’t tough, fossil fuel implies hydrocarbons, as that’s where the fossil part comes from.

Nuclear fuel is non renewable but it is also clean.

I’m surprised by all the angry comments of people on this thread, people don’t realize the true potential modern nuclear energy has, to produce a lot of energy and just right besides where that energy is needed, one of the biggest problems of renewables is that you don’t get to choose where they are produced, so in most cases it implies transmission lines, very high capacity ones and very long ones, my country recently had a country wide outage caused by the failure of one of those that caused a cascading failure.

I’m not saying that renewables aren’t incredible tech, they are, they really do, like they’re one of the best sources of energy available, but they aren’t perfect, and them being complemented with nuclear would do a big deal of good, as I said before nuclear has it’s own unique strengths that can help out a lot.

And also I see a lot of people here talking from outright ignorance about the state of the arts of the tech, it has advanced a lot since the 1950’s lol, and repeat the same arguments, forever debunked, people do about nuclear that frustrating, Fukushima and Chernobyl were both plants with stupidly old tech, run by clowns and ignoring really well known risks for the sake of the lulz, even when all nuclear accidents combined, the tech has killed a fraction of people than what hidro has killed, modern tech is heaps more advanced and has included everything needed for that sort of accident to be impossible, even nuclear waste is a solved problem, the only thing stopping it from fully materializing is political will (Altough is kind of a blessing in hiding because now tech to use spent fuel seems to be the future also).

IDK, people do disappoint on their ignorance.

Renewables have killed more people than all nuclear accidents combined tough, mostly hidro failures, but also a fair share of industrial accidents with the usual ones.

Bruh.

Nuclear is capable of generating a ton of energy right besides where is used, renewables have to be transmitted absurdly long distances in most cases.

And mining is every day more automated, sending robots to dig down the materials, and even then, is not like renewables don’t need mining also lol.

And yes, they test it, here they’re smashing a train full speed to one of the canisters to test it’s safety