This is all good and all, but ask Kara-Murza about russian attitudes towards genocidal imperialism and you’ll hear some BS about “everyone is afraid” and it’s only putin fault.
The russian opposition will always be a failure until they recognize that putin is a mere symptom and the cause is russian society.
piefed.itjust.works - IYKYK as the young folks say (I am not that old, late 30s, or perhaps that’s what I tell myself). :)
With the admin piece, maybe start a thread in Agora looking at interest from long time prominent users?
Just some thoughts…
I can’t comment on the details of its algorithm, but you do get warning badgfor spamm/trash posters. Emphasis on spammy, less so unpopular opinion.
It’s a much better and feature rich platform for both users and moderators. Piefed is definitely a lot more than a “Threadiverse client where the developers happen to not be tankies.”
User facing features:
Mod/curator features
The developers are also a lot more responsive and proactive. I’ve had several minor features implemented following requests.
Fuck Trump, and (unfortunately) fuck America too!
Let them get eaten alive by their oligarchs. Eventually their acceptance of corruption will get to the average American as well (but it will be too late by then).
Thank you!
Respect to Kasparov. There is a reason russians (including the allegedly “liberal” russian “opposition”) hate him!
I am sorry, but I strongly disagree.
It is a fact that 1/3 of the US voted for him (after seeing what he is like), another third doesn’t care (so they have a measure of responsibility too) and the final third might not have voted for Trump, but a large portion of them are simply too well off (and therefore risk averse) to have addressed the causes of Trump’s rise; broad tolerance of corruption and criminality in US society.
I didn’t say every single American supports Trump or that they voted for him.
That being said, I don’t believe Trump is a magician and that Americans are idiots, who got enamoured by his powerful rhetoric.
This is unfortunately to be expected.
I will add that Trump is a mere symptom, the cause is US society (ignoring this benefits no one, even the Americans).
No is calling for attacking hospitals or civilians! I was taking about military and industrial targets.
I will respectful disagree, I am sure our leadership would also not reject the ability to launch ~100 tomahawks per week on an indefinite basis.
I hope you’re right, but I don’t believe in anything other than using force against the russians.
That would mean going beyond our current attacks with drones and locally produces missiles and doing at least 50-100 ballistic missile strikes against the russians per week. This is just one example; a similar comprehensive approach would need to be applied in multiple areas.
Beyond that, we would need to arm freedom fighters in occupied nations to allow both utilization of senior collaborators, but also anti-air system to bring down russian planes and a bombing program to disrupt russian logistics.
Took nearly 4 years of full scale invasion even though sabotage by russians in EU was conducted before Feb 22.
And they are still allowing entry by random russians.
Thank for taking the time to reply. I too am interested in understanding perspective on this issue because I have American friends in both political camps (centre-right and far-right).
I see your logic and I think your arguments have weight and are done in good faith. That being said the gulf in our perspectives and experiences is simply too far apart, where it may almost seem like we are talking about different things (and we are from different sides of the planet).
I don’t see why I or other any SJW member should be subject to bad faith, corporate spam. I am not interested in “demagogue destroys [political opponent]”, "[political opponent] is a member of Al-Qaeda] or “[US Oligarch says some a propaganda]”. All found in the first two pages of maga.place. What is this point of this?
I do not believe in “safe spaces” or “echo chambers”. The latter in particular is a loaded, polemical term that means nothing. You can very much be open to new experiences and perspective without wanting malicious goons shitting up a forum that you use. There is a beautiful irony that US conservatives claim to oppose echo chambers when they are the biggest enablers of this concept. Is it unreasonable to claims that almost all US conservatives oppose real regulation of social media (other than to dictate and force their own interpretation of moderation policies on others) to address harmful engagement algorithms?
Just recently Facebook was found to have earned $16.5 B in 2024 from commissions on fraud and scams. Am I acting in bad faith by stating that most conservatives in the US would oppose true action (not words) against FB’s leadership and those who implemented this policy? Real action; prison, asset seizure, breakup of criminal organizations.
I don’t believe in American polemics about “big government spending”. First of all, fiscal policy is a pretty complicated thing, “I want lower taxes no matter what” is not a serious policy proposal (and that is the sole prerogative of US conservatism). Legitimate reform approaches (even more technocratic proposals) are rejected outright by US conservatives. Secondly, there is the moral imperative. US is a very a rich country and is more than capable of providing healthcare for all, not to mention there are economic reasons why such a system allows for more efficiency (purchasing economies, remove of massive insurance company and healthcare administration bureaucracy). My friend works in healthcare in the US, from my discussions with him it seems clear (to me), that the current US healthcare system is simply a local scheme for corruption and criminality. Third, from the research I did, US conservatives are more than happy to be the beneficiaries of government spending (e.g. farming, certain conservative states/regions de facto existing on government initiatives).
For me, it’s not good enough to say “I don’t like what ICE is doing, but I will tolerate their actions because I want to remove illegal immigrants”. Security services beating people up, arbitrarily arresting people and deporting citizens is unacceptable. Excuses don’t count. When you ignore such things, you get russia.
Russia became the way it is because the people were willing to tolerate putin because they thought he was doing the right thing. I lived in russia in the 90s, you could criticize the government and there was some hilarious satirical shows (sometimes very high quality subtle satire). There partially free elections. They lost it all that because they thought putin was doing the right thing.
I also disagree that the US has fully free elections. There are parts of the country where people aren’t allowed to vote (and US conservatives largely support this). The approach to districting is also clearly malicious and strongly suggests US conservatives oppose real democracy (districting is just one example, there are many others).
When I mentioned the distinction between the conservative movement in general (on a global scale) and US conservatives I was referring to the above points. You can be a conservative in other countries and not support security services setting up check points for non-whites, beating up people and deporting your own citizens.
It is also the height of arrogance to think it is impossible for a political movement to be fundamentally flawed and lacking in any real positives. There are more than enough political movements in world history (both left and right) that have been completely discredited. To believe this is impossible in the US is how you get putin and your country turning into russia.
I have no issues with conservative perspectives, you need a balance to keep both sides honest, but that doesn’t mean I must believe an American political movement cannot be rotten to the core by the virtue of being American. And that’s why I think it is legitimate to preemptively ban oligarch propaganda and borderline degenerate spam “demagogue destroys [political opponent]” from what I consider to be a fundamentally malicious movement.
Apologies for the rather negative tone, but this is my perspective.
Apologies for pinging you, you made a lot of arguments for why we should give MAGA movement member the benefit of the doubt. Those argument don’t align with reality in my opinion.
Kostroma is pretty far from the frontlines, further than Moscow.
I see, so on-site behaviour.
Is there any situation where MAGA as a movement more broadly can be qualified as causing harm (I get the impression that you don’t believe that’s the case currently)?
Or is it more that we shouldn’t treat a random MAGA supporter as intending to do harm?
I’ve lived in both russia and the US for multiple years. We left russia as soon our situation allowed us to. We were constantly harassed by police and had to deal with pretty harsh racism (even though our papers were in order and we all speak fluent russian and understand the interpersonal culture very well).
The US has become just like russia with security services harassing non-whites, beating people and jailing people even if their documents are in order (and even jailing and deporting citizens!). My mother is in shock that this is happening in the US (she hasn’t lived there, but she has visited many times and has been to multiple cities) and it’s becoming like russia.
In this context, why is it wrong to treat MAGA and its supporters as causing harm? Or do you disagree with the framing of the above paragraph?
Then there is the international context; promotion of corruption, promotion of far right parties (including criminals and open racists).
Why shouldn’t that qualify as causing harm?
One could argue that the rank and file MAGA supporters don’t know about this or didn’t intend to cause harm. But my answer would be that alleged intent or lack of knowledge is not important. It’s outcomes that count.
Mind you, this is not meant as a gotcha. I have friends of 15-20 years that I am still very close with from both sides of the US political aisle (i.e. one group supports Trump, albeit with exceptions on some issues).
I’ve had people on Lemmy call me a bad person for continuing to be close with the group that supports Trump. To which I replied that they are not bad people, they are not fascists or nazis or whatever (it would make no sense considering my mixed ethnic background) and they will come about.
So there is a measure of nuance to my perspective. I will add that MAGA is not the same thing as conservative in the broader context. The fact that most people who call themselves conservatives in the US are supporters of the MAGA movement speaks more about the US than conservatism in general.
Oui
It’s been pretty rough today. No heat / electricity since the morning, although our building (and neighbouring buildings on the same schedule) in particular are not getting electricity (the one right next us is getting electricity on schedule).