

Yes, different tools do different things, good job for understanding that. The point being made here is that you can still use those different tools responsibly if you have the requisite knowledge and take appropriate care.


Yes, different tools do different things, good job for understanding that. The point being made here is that you can still use those different tools responsibly if you have the requisite knowledge and take appropriate care.


Open weights is not open source…
Yeah her post is entirely reasonable, at least depending on the industry, e.g. in my industry LinkedIn is unfortunately where most leads get generated aside from conferences, so of you’re a senior marketing person in my industry then it’s genuinely a red flag if you don’t have an active LinkedIn profile. The post on engineering is satire that kinda misses the point.
Where have you tried?
They are pretty damn ubiquitous in Canada, so there’s really nothing uniquely European about this.


No my argument does not depend on that at all, it merely depends on the distinction between generating code (which LLMs do in a nondeterministic manner) and compiling/running the generated code (which happens, as with code written by humans, in a deterministic manner). Also I did not call humans tools.


I get your argument just fine, and as I said I think you have a very credible and interesting point regarding the fact that LLM outputs are a nondeterministic abstraction. But if you consider LLMs as an abstraction in generating code, why not humans?? I don’t see the principled distinction, as human devs are also code generators.
This is sensible in practice, since if someone needs to build something, they can either hire a dev or they can vibe code it themselves. Either way, they will end up with deterministic code (albeit perhaps very different quality depending on the code generator).


That’s just a weird comparison though, why are you comparing implementation to compilation? If I ask you (or a cohort of developers) to implement the same thing, I will get different versions of the same thing.


I think that’s a very valid point and I had to check my assumptions to see that you are largely right. However, I’m not sure your last sentence is necessary relevant, as the output of vibe coding is typically deterministic code, not code that is itself dependent on LLM (although that can happen as well but it can be considered as a special case).


Lol you remind me of Cartman.


Bro, you are arguing with a poorly-constructed strawman. The commenter you’re replying to said nothing about borders being real or Americans constituting a people (which, for the record, you are wrong about on both accounts - these are real, albeit non-physical, emergent phenomena). Yes, the US is an empire, but the destruction of the world does not depend exclusively on them. Do you really think that over-exploitation of Earth’s resources would stop abruptly if the American empire was destroyed tomorrow? It would help, sure, but you’re in no way addressing the clear connection between human psychology and exploitation. Greed is not exclusively American.
Lol so you are denigrating companies that don’t take VC funding? I imagine you’d have criticisms for companies which are VC-funded.
My company is bootstrapped which means we are forced to grow in a sustainable way, we listen to our customers and optimize the product for their experience, and we don’t have to listen to any investors.
I’m very curious why “bootstrap” would be any sort of dogwhistle.
Interesting, my experience has been quite different but then it has been more with executives of relatively small (<500) and private companies. I’ve also seen some cases of companies closer to dictatorships, but they have (at least from my external perspective) seemed like dictators with at least clear visions. A small minority have been loudmouthed assholes.
Have you worked with very many CEOs at SMEs? Based on my experience it seems to match the description, by and large.


Hahaha


Cool that’s great. Can you tell me that none of the software you use has been developed by software engineers making use of machine learning methods?


This is a great example since AI isn’t taking on the role of an independent software engineer here, so there is no “Jim” and this is much less of an issue than y’all are making it out to be. You know that auto-correct is also a form of ML right? Have you considered that tools can be used responsibly and that standards for software developers still apply even when they use new tools?
Well yeah of course you do and of course it does, for example if you’re not skilled at using a hammer or if you’re subcontracting the use of the hammer to someone that you need to ultimately review/oversee.