Can confirm.

I very much included that context.

Lemmchen: “Wow steam machines are gonna be expensive”, on a thread specifically about a massive price hike on Steam Decks (due to memory pricing)

Your comment just now once again reaffirms that you were trying to make the case that the machine’s lack of screen, battery, and optional controller will indeed offset the expected price increases of the memory.

Everyone here is just trying to tell you that they disagree with your expectation/prediction.

But that’s all any of us is doing, after all, is predicting.

We think that the memory increases will be more impactful than not having a screen, battery (super negligible because it needs a power supply anyway), and optional controller, leading to a steam machine that will be over €1,000.

If you do also believe that, absolutely none of your comments make any sense.

The conversation so far has been (paraphrasing) …

1. Lemmchen: “Wow steam machines are gonna be expensive”, on a thread specifically about a massive price hike on Steam Decks (due to memory pricing)
2. You: “Well maybe not, machines won’t have OLED screens, battery, and optional controller”
3. Femtek: “yeah but those things aren’t why steam Decks are having this huge price hike. They are going up because of memory” memory is a shared component between Decks and machines.
4. You: “yes, those things will impact the price, but these other things that the machine won’t have will also impact the price.”
5. Femtek: “not by the same amount”
6. You: “I wasn’t arguing that”

What point were you trying to make if not that having no screen/optional controller would offset the increased memory prices?

Valve didn’t “fuck up” […] It is the scalpers and only scalpers to blame.

This you?

It was wrong from Valve to not do the pre-order dance and special ordering process they already did before.

Make up your mind. You said you agreed with the commenter above, said Valve was in the wrong, and then when I suggest it’s okay to be mad at multiple parties, you switched your tune about Valve being in the wrong.

To counter your analogy, it would be a like a shop owner had been robbed before and knows the method by which they have been robbed. They also have, in the past, successfully combated the robbers. Then, the shop owner announced a highly sought after new product and… took no precautions against the robbers. In fact, this is less of an analogy and just… what Valve did.

You can be mad at the robbers and also be pretty annoyed with the shopkeeper for not doing the thing they had done in the past to successfully counteract robbers.

Edited to add, I also kinda hate that analogy because in your analogy you’re painting Valve as a victim (having been robbed). Valve isn’t a victim here; they made bank.

Instead getting mad at Valve, one should be mad at scalpers and UPS.

¿Por qué no los dos?

Your comment admits that Valve fucked up the first wave, then circle back and say people shouldn’t be mad at Valve. You can be mad at more than one thing.

I’m not sure where you live, but in many places it is the legal responsibility of the seller to ensure that the goods you purchased arrived safely into your hands. You do have options.

This only reinforces my opinion that the one dev deserves credit, not all of Valve.

Look, Valve does cool stuff but why do they get so much credit and free passes that other companies simply would not?

A dev that works at Valve contributing this does not make this official Valve support as far as I’m concerned. It makes that one dev cool.

The person you’re replying to is not the same person that was originally asked. They are just chiming in with agreement of the first person, stating that they do not use Retrodeck because they do not like ES-DE.

The “It” in “I have avoided it” is Retrodeck, not ES-DE.

Right, which would happen after the direct deposit, so your entire tangent about taxes and insurance seems irrelevant to the meme and conversation involving the amount in the meme.

If you’re a self employed contractor, you’re taking taxes and insurance out yourself, not from what you’d be paid.

I would not personally suspect availability concerns for the controller in the same way I would expect for the frame and machine.

Joysticks not offset like a typical controller.

What’s a “typical” controller? Playstation controller joysticks haven’t been offset since they invented the concept in 1997.

Also, I didn’t assume anything. I quoted your own words.

Not at all. I’m primarily a PC gamer and that price is just a little too steep for me.

$150 CAD is gonna be an instant wait for sale from me, dawg.

I don’t need touch options on my controllers and I don’t use fancy macro/keybind/crazy stuff

It’s good that you know what you want in a product, but this product is clearly not marketed at you in this case. It’s kind of silly to compare apples to oranges especially when you’re allergic to citrus in the first place, you know?

99.9% of people aren’t going to know you play it, and 99.99% of people aren’t going to know about that association. You’re really blowing it out of proportion, imho, but you do you.

Really hard ask in CAD, especially since I’d want two so my partner has one. Hope the price is not true but, honestly, I was kinda expecting that price point.

Any instructions? Do you just download the whole repo in desktop mode then run the install script?

I think it’s important to note that this is not, in fact, a crack. The hypervisor bypass method is not a crack and does not work on all systems (e.g., Linux). This is particularly worth mentioning imho on a thread about a game being played on Steam Deck.