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Recently, we reported on LibreOffice, accusing Microsoft of intentionally using complex file formats as a tactic to lock in users to Microsoft Office, hindering open source alternatives like LibreOffice. Now, Microsoft has banned LibreOffice developer, Mike Kaganski, from using its services, citing an “activity that violates [its] Services Agreement”.
According to Mike, this happened last Monday when he tried to send a technical email to the LibreOffice dev mailing list, which is a normal part of his routine, but Thunderbird returned an error saying the message couldn’t be sent. His account was blocked upon retry, and he found himself completely logged out of his Microsoft account…
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Well, yeah, but not like that!
Microsoft 🍆 Open Source
OpenSource, not Free/Libre-software
Are there really people who know what open source means that would see this and actually believe it? Who is that even for?
Microsoft and other large corporations do love open source. Open source software saves them tons of money.
I hope that’s not where the libre code is hosted.
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Microsoft and anticompetitiveness, an iconic duo
It’s a shame that show shit the bed so badly in the third season
This is his blog article. https://mikekaganski.wordpress.com/2025/07/25/microsoft-anybody-home/
Looking at this, it looks more like Microsoft just screwed it’s auth system in some way for him then intentionally banned him in particular.
I as an IT guy have seen this before SOHO office accounts as well and entirely agree that MS has entirely lost the ability to do IT infrastructure in any useful way. Even at an enterprise level, Exchange and outlook used to be convoluted to learn and administer before they became cloud based, as regedit was your friend and they always buried the settings. Now, it doesn’t require a degree in IT, but rather a pointy hat and a reading of spell books to make things work… Sometimes. Sacrifices of interns might be necessary at the alter of Support, before they’ll answer the phone and you realize they have no more knowledge then you to.
WAS your friend? Bitch, I’m still yo friend! ;)
Heck Microsoft doesn’t even allow me to use IMAP, and if I want to use a different client (and not the shitty web one), I have to get permission from my IT administrator.
Funnily enough, the same client (Thubderbid) doesn’t need any confirmation on Mac or Windows, only Linux.
And now the important question: Sir, exactly how many interns have YOU sacrificed to Micorosoft Khorne? how many skulls did you provide for his throne?
It’s fun to assume this is Microsoft being petty but the most likely scenario is Microsoft has cut their operating costs to such extremes they no longer have usable services or products.
This always happens when business majors are allowed to make decisions.
All the more reason to get LibreOffice
and OnlyOffice!I ditched the latter
The connection between OnlyOffice and Russia has caused some controversy. The company has moved headquarters and attempted to hide its Russian ties through shell companies[21]. The company develops its product in Russia[22] and presents itself in the Russian market as a Russian company[23]. For this reason some Ukrainian businesses have moved away from OnlyOffice[24].
thx. i hate russia.
Is everything Russian bad? I understand Ukraine not using anything Russian but the rest of the world?
I didn’t say that necessarily. The reason I dropped it is because I don’t trust the developers to protect the software from the Russian government if they’re based out of Russia.
If it open source who cares
There are more concerns in the world than just “is it open source?”
I’mbusing it and I haven’t donated to them and probably won’t after reading that bit so not sure how they are making money through me? So yeah it’s different to paying a subscription for something else
You using this thing helps boost metrics and alert search engines and shit. That boosts their visibility. Just using the thing helps the project.
Frankly, if libreoffice made a cleaner looking UI that wasn’t stuck in the 90s more people would take it seriously. It’s functional, but curb appeal helps to attract people, to convince them to give it a chance.
While it doesn’t bring it up to current standards, it does have a tabbed UI that you can enable by going to View --> User Interface
Personally, I don’t fully understand why they don’t make that the default and keep supporting the toolbar design as they’ve always done. I can’t imagine there would be a big backlash from existing users who prefer the toolbar UI
If I would run a global company based in Russia, I’d also try to hide it, even if no malice is taking place.
This kind of reaction is exactly why.
As long as it’s open source, it should be fine, though.
this exact same thing happened to me a while ago. I really doubt some human blocked my account though. after hours of customer support call and emails (from another account) it finally got unblocked but neither yhe support agent nor me had any clue what happened.
I learned the lesson and gradually moved the dev accounts to a proton email instead.
It looks more like Microsoft’s usual incompetence than a conspiracy against LibreOffice…
“never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity”
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when I moved to Linux a couple years ago I felt the exact same way. I dont’ know how old you are but maybe you remember that feeling logging into win 95 or 98 for the very first time and falling in love with computers and what they could do.
I hadn’t felt that way in decades and when I switched to Linux it made me feel like I was a kid again in the late 90s with my very first PC. Switching to Linux made me fall in love with Computers again.
This! Exactly:]
It’s alright - start off easy, do some browsing/text editing/etc, don’t jump to complicated stuff. You’ll get there!
If you come to Windows merely a few weeks after, you’ll feel same discomfort that you feel now. Linux will become more familiar, easy, and predictable.
Just keep on going and enjoy your ride. Oh and - I hope you chose a simple, newbie-friendly distribution. Figuring out technicalities when you didn’t yet have basics is no fun.
This should help with some of the commands
@CurlyWurlies4All @Babalugats Congrats and enjoy getting the grips with it.
Gosh, I can’t imagine why M$ would block competition!
use Linux, not garbage Microsoft fedware
Us OpenSouce/Free-Software fanatics don’t seem so crazy now, dont we
This behaviour is precisely why I stopped using Gmail. My account got locked one day - phone number and recovery email weren’t “enough” to recover, all appeals rejected, that’s it. Lost all my emails, all the stuff in my gdrive, just gone forever. There is literally no way to escalate other than doing a lawsuit. I make sure now to never have my data with a company that can just arbitrarily lock you out and completely ignore you.
why work for evil corp microsoft when you can join the fsf without selling your soul to evil corp
