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They wouldn’t be able to pay the creators due to sanctions anyways. Could be seen as a positive because it allows the creators to put pressure on the US to lift the sanctions on the country.
It’s also completely fine under all international law.
Following copyright law is more like a trade agreement, so if you feel wronged enough as a nation it’s completely uncontroversial to suspend all or all international copyright law and deal with the consequences (mainly the us being very salty about it).The EU contingency for a US attack on Greenland for example is among other steps to suspend all US copyrights recognition and starve the US service industry.
I’m in the EU. I was anti-piracy in the past. It took Trump’s threats to our territory for me to stop paying any streaming services and actively engage in piracy. Now the money goes to the seedbox hosts outside the US instead of disney or netflix. I also started using ad-blocker for youtube instead of paying. I don’t think this is fair towards the content creators but i just can’t bring myself to give the US companies any money unless i absolutely have to. I will keep doing this until the US changes its laws/constitution to disallow someone like Trump from threatening their allies, oh and plus until they apologise and promise not to do it again.
Not only will i not give them money, i will aim to cause them economical harm.I was anti-piracy in the past.
Hopefully you realize the error of your ways and the vast damage done by the violent control of free information. The hegemonic narrative around “ownership” serves capitalism, not humanity.
The EU contingency for a US attack on Greenland for example is among other steps to suspend all US copyrights recognition and starve the US service industry.
Ignore patents (especially medical), licenses, royalties and such while they’re at it.
Ban all travel for any muricans (they should do it anyway 'cos measles) and invite them to leave the EU.
Ignore right to repair.
Nationalize any Big US Tech assets in the EU (datacenters, wharehouses) as well as bank accounts, use them to build EU digital infrastructure.
Discourage usage of US tech (windows,AWS, etc) / encourage use of non-US tech.
Stop using USD for any trading.
Close down all US military presence or lock them in.
Etc
There’s absolutely nothing “positive” about Cuba joining a genocidal empire just so they can broadcast commercials.
I never said Cuba should join the US, just that corporations could collect royalties on their copyrighted material if they weren’t barred from doing business with the country.
cuban here, can confirm, you could see the latest movies
You live in Cuba? I’d love to know what your life is like.
not anymore, I left a few years ago but I still go there to visit family
Please open an Ask Me Anything thread! I know nothing about daily life in Cuba and I’d be super curious
Yes I would also like this!
How are they holding up?
Seconding the other person. I am deeply curious about learning about Cuba, whether you currently live there or not. I understand if you don’t want to talk openly because of flame wars in comment sections, but I’d love to DM, or move the conversation to a different community if needed.
I am deeply curious about learning about Cuba
So go visit.
God, I wish I was the type of person who could afford to leave my town, much less my country. :/
🤓
right now? like, right now ? you know whats going on, right?
I’ve seen better crops during the Irish famine
And yet, I’ve not seen a better comment in a good while!
Here you go:
Yeah, I haven’t seen a poster bomb this hard since the IRA
If all the ai clankers can do it I have no problem with Cuba doing it. Hell if it’s from a studio that bent the knee to trump, it should be encouraged to everyone, expecally for countries tired of the USA
Does this work both ways? If Cuba can do it, then AI companies can do it too? Or are we just gonna keep running with the double standards?
I frankly never quite understood why so many piracy advocates lose their minds when AI companies do the exact same thing they do. I don’t buy the “but it’s for profit” argument either - downloading movies, games, or apps does the exact same thing. There’s no practical difference between saving money and earning money.
Does this work both ways? If Cuba can do it, then AI companies can do it too?
No, because we make such deferences out of empathy and social awareness, which is a thing for humans. Clankers, by definition, can deserve no empathy.
why are you asking questions backwards if tote already answered?
a company is not a person, the only benefit a company can get from it is PROFIT and the value a real human being gets from pirating varies from pure entertainment to cultural capital
What you get from pirating is not having to pay. Purchasing a movie still gives you the same entertainment and cultural capital.
Nobody is obligated to hand out for free something they put time, effort, and capital into creating and running. If someone can justify to themselves that it’s okay to download it for free, then criticizing AI companies for doing the exact same thing is hypocritical on their part.
Making money and saving money achieve exactly the same thing: you end up with more to spend.
Yeah because saving money as an individual is the same as a company choosing to not pay copyright holders so they can make more profit from pirating petabytes of info
Very clever, you are clearly very intelligent
Let me put an /s just so this doesn’t go over your head too
Company is run by individuals.
I have no idea why you need to start insulting me now.
Despite being run by individuals I think there’s at least some amount of difference between pirating a book to read it and pirating all books in existance to make copius amount of profits.
Not arguing for any moral superiority here, just pointing the difference.
But in both cases you have the option to pay - yet choose not to. If money wasn’t an issue, there wouldn’t really be any reason to pirate anything. That’s why I see piracy as a financial decision, and thus I don’t think piracy advocates have any ground to stand on when they criticize AI companies for doing the exact same thing. It’s not identical, but it’s equivalent.
One could even argue that individual piracy is selfish because it only benefits the one person doing it. AI companies at least are providing a product that hundreds of millions of people get value out of - and the vast majority of them get it for free.
There’s no practical difference between saving money and earning money.
Oh, cool, so that means that I can pay my rent, utilities, etc. by torrenting. Where’s my fucking check?!
I didn’t think I’d need to explain the difference between saving money and earning money but here we are.
When you earn money, you get a check you can spend on more stuff. When you save money, you don’t get a check - that would be earning, not saving. Instead, you’re spending less, which means you have that money left to buy something else. Those savings are effectively what you “earn.”
When you download a $40 movie for free, you’re left with $40 more to spend on something else. It doesn’t matter whether I hand you $40 to buy the movie or you pirate it - in both cases, you end up with the exact same amount of money afterward.
I didn’t think I’d need to explain the difference between saving money and earning money but here we are.
There’s no practical difference between saving money and earning money.
Trololololololo
Same for Iran :)) We have no copyright so there are official platforms like netflix with all pirated movies and the national tv shows pirated movies constantly. Also, not a single person buys windows or office licenses here :))
No one buys legitimate windows or office licenses anywhere, lol (except for corporations, I guess)
Depends if you count OEM licences that came with their device as purchases, which would be the vast majority of people.
I gave my Linux laptop to my brother and that fucker bought a separate retail copy of windows (because it’d be stealing otherwise). I’m ashamed to be related to that fucker.
Sorry it was six years ago. I’m told to let it go, but I just don’t understand.
Never let go.
It’s infuriating, but if it’s your brother, unless he’s jeopardising an important priority in your life in a way that affects your life opportunities and/or wellbeing/health, ya should probably tolerate it somewhat. Like explain why what he did is a bad thing and let it be. Family discount. At least it’s not your parent that’s acting up.
Anyway, I am just talking out of my ass here, free advice, and all that. I don’t blame you at all, I’d be pissed too.
Oh i see him at family events I play with his kids. I even loaned him some money to buy a house. I just stopped talking about tech or exchanging tech. I stopped his access to my plex and nextcloud. I’m the tech guy of the family but he is blacklisted in tech.
In a stolen font
YOU WOULDNT STEAL A SHITTY OPERATING SYSTEM
lmaaao, I feel sorry for you
laughs in Linux
Too many clothes required.
Hahah yeah these fuckers have become great at adding clothes to the movie 😂😂
Imagine if they focused on creating tools that could jailbreak iOS devices, John Deere tractors, HP printers, etc. I bet they could sell that as a service. What could the US or American companies do to stop them? They could be Disenshittification Island.
Jesus Christ. How many times have the USA done something like this? And how many times are they currently doing something like this?
Yes and yes.
It’s uncountable.
The US already invaded Cuba, so…
Wen speaking about copyright and how the USA is abusing its power, this is worth watching
That’s exactly what Cory Doctorow has been advocating for
Except that no country is likely to take him up on that suggestion because they’re afraid of how the US would react. Cuba’s already heavily sanctioned, so they have less to lose. Maybe nothing to lose.
Can’t sanction everyone. How many Navy ships are there?
At least 3.
Expensive
What could the US or American companies do to stop them?
The empire is literally bombing and starving the planet for the sake of capitalism and its MIC.
They’re already murdering cubans for nothing.
Exactly, so this wouldn’t make things any worse.
Insert an NSA agent to put in backdoors, so they can track every user. Then lawsuits.
In what court, exactly?
On the American customers, for DMCA violation.
How dare they after being treated so greatly by the US over the last decades? 😭
Have they said “thank you” once?
I bet they didn’t. So ungrateful!
Has Cuba tried wearing a suit?
Tan? Dijon mustard? No wonder Trump hates them.
Probably a good way to spread American culture into the country… Sweden has become super Americanized just because of American movies.
Little girls from Sweden dream of silver screen quotation
And if you want those kind of dreams it’s Californication…My wife is Dutch and thinks that all American high schools look like an ivy league university and have students that look like they’re 20 walking around having sexy dramatic adventures. 🙈
Sadly you’re likely right
And again… sad Finnish noices
Im british, many younger people use American terms and have bits of American accents.
Same for Portugal, but in this case the American accent is from Brazil… 😅
Funnily i watched so much Star Trek: TNG 20 years ago that i developed an Oxford accent when speaking english lol
Most of Europe I’d say…
Why does Sweden dislike the US so much according to this poll though:
Donald Trump has been threatening Europe both militarily and economically. Two years ago it would have been completely different.
Trump.
Ya don’t say.
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Imagine being incharge of national piracy
Such a flex🗿
Do they have an official web stream? I think protonvpn has Cuba as a location, it would be interesting to see. lol
I saw that, and thought if people use that most of the time a) proton would eventually invest in more/better Cuban servers, and b) less likely to have copyright lawyers try and look at it.
Am I wrong?
I do that too!
I’ll drink a cuba libre to that!
Based and Cuba pilled
